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MAR
9
2010
Seeing Stars Align, Indiana in the News
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We were all having fun with the whole astrology discussion yesterday, and I was surprise our own Abby Miller got busy defending astrology, while I was thinking back to how much ridicule Nancy Reagan received for it back in the 1980s.

So I challenged Abby when she asked what my sign was. If she could guess my sign, based on what she knew about me, I was prepared to be impressed.

I got back a paragraph about my personality traits and her assessment, and her guess that I was a Virgo. Bingo. Aug. 28. So chalk one up for Abby. But I'm still not checking my horoscope every day for advice on what to do.

On with the news:

Bridge Tolls by 2013, Really: At last week's meeting of the Bridges Authority, four scenarios were made public, including one that advocates beginning tolling on the existing Ohio River bridges by 2013.

Reality: Homeless Home Will Be Auctioned: Jeffersonville's Haven House, the only homeless shelter in southern Indiana, is set to be auctioned Tuesday. Operators failed to pay payroll taxes, and the feds want their money. $300K is owed. About 70 people affected. Even homeless shelter operators have to abide by the tax laws.

More Hoosier News: We'll have more on this later, but it was apparently quite a contentious meeting over the closing of some elementary schools in New Albany. Our eyewitness told me that police were called in and there was plenty of racial tension over the budget-cutting idea of dropping a diversity staff position. Here's the News-Tribune coverage.

No, I don't expect Chief White to stick around: Police chief Robert White is one of six finalists for a job in Dallas. If he doesn't get the job, he'll get another. Expect several of the Abramson administrations lame-duck directors to be sending out resumes.

Today's Idiot Lawmakers: Let's honor Republicans Tim Moore of Elizabethown and David Floyd of Bardstown, who have tacked anti-abortion language into otherwise useful bills dealing with child-welfare and public health. Embarrassing.


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     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 10:52 am         · 
hmm...perhaps i'll set up charts on the mojo patio and do some readings. And if I can be up there with Nancy Reagan, I'll take it. lol. but no, I don't check the stars when it comes to making my plans for the day, but where there's an open mind, there's understanding. :0)
     Beverly Bartlett   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:01 am         · 
I too had Rick pegged as a Virgo. In my case, it was because it's listed on his public profile. LOL.
Rob's a Pisces. J.S. is a Taurus! I'm a genius! hee.
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:05 am         · 
Ah...always the doubter and skeptic. I didn't look at any info, b/c he just asked me to guess based on what I know of him...so I did. Loosen up my friend, life's far too short. :0)
     Beverly Bartlett   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:07 am         · 
If you think I'm always a doubter and a skeptic, then you're... off base. But good try!
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:24 am         · 
lol...no dear, i just meant that you seemed to doubt or were skeptical that i pegged our guy Rick based on what I know about him, not on a profile I didn't even think about. I could peg you to a "T." But i'll save it for the mojo patio surrounded by beer and warm weather!!!
     Sherry Deatrick   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:28 am         · 
Meow!

I'm a Virgo too. That's why I give the best critical reviews.
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:29 am         · 
lol...love it Sherry!! And I bet you are a pretty analytical person too!!
     Beverly Bartlett   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:33 am         · 
Well, all I know is you SAID that I was "always the doubter and the skeptic." In point of fact, I didn't say anything about how you pegged Rick. I very clearly said that was how "I" pegged him. I look forward to hearing how you have me pegged to a T, but.... I will say that I am skeptical about THAT. LOL.
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:57 am         · 
gotcha...my bad. the way it was worded i thought you were implying i had "cheated" and peeked lol. and that would be no fun. and, to be honest, i hadn't thought of the mojo profiles. :0) sorry for the confusion.
     Beverly Bartlett   tue mar 09 2010 at 12:14 pm         · 
No problem.... All part of the perils of electronic communication. I am looking forward to meeting up sometime and getting your take on me in person! :-)
     Film Guy   tue mar 09 2010 at 1:35 pm         · 
I'm game. Guess me.
     Strawberry Burns   tue mar 09 2010 at 3:39 pm         · 
Can you back up your basis for NOT taking anything about astrology seriously and for thinking less of people who do SciFi Nut?
     Steve Magruder   tue mar 09 2010 at 4:26 pm         · 
Astrology is definitely a sometimes-fun parlor game, but is it based on anything real? Of course not.
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 4:44 pm         · 
Love ya scifi nut so i'm not going to go into my thoughts on astrology. it's, of course, far more than a parlor game, just as the earth's rotation has a direct relationship on the sun, the moon, the other planets. everything's connected and astrological signs absolutely have bearing on the type of person we are.

nonetheless, film guy, it doesn't work that way. I don't know you...if I knew you well and your habits and the type of person you are, I could say, wow, bet your a .... fill in the blank.

that's just how it works. and, anyone who's honest can look at the description of their sign and see that it aptly describes them and that each sign is very different in personality traits than another. For example, I'm a Leo...much different than say, a Libra. And you won't see many Libras commenting on here...that's not the way they are. :0)
     Strawberry Burns   tue mar 09 2010 at 4:45 pm         · 
I know what the other thread was about. Just wanted to know the basis on your view of it.

So basically you feel about astrology about the same way I feel about religion.
     Film Guy   tue mar 09 2010 at 5:59 pm         · 
Fair enough
     metricsister   tue mar 09 2010 at 7:00 pm         · 
personally i think astrology is ridiculous also, but i would never go to such lengths to argue about it and make fun of people who do........... what motivates someone like that? a need to always be RIGHT and make themselves feel good by constantly telling WRONG people how wrong they are and rubbing their nose in it??
     DavidsonDuke   tue mar 09 2010 at 7:42 pm         · 
Abby, "anyone who is honest"?
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 8:07 pm         · 
yep...I think there are those who'd read their description and, because they are so dead set against astrology, they'd dismiss it and say it doesn't apply to them. that's all i meant by that.

I've yet to meet anyone who could honestly say that they don't see their own personality and likeness in their astrology descriptor. :)
     DavidsonDuke   tue mar 09 2010 at 8:14 pm         · 
That's a pretty nifty out for your argument. There are people who look at astrology and don't find it accurate or true, but only because they are dishonest. It's circular, but it gets you where you want to go. Funny that you would commend having an "open mind" with that position. I'm a bit flabbergasted.
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 8:19 pm         · 
sorry, i guess... i mean, i just haven't met anyone who didn't read the standard descriptors and think, hm...sounds like me. and every sign is different so it's not like they can all sound the same. i mean, no one could ever confuse me with a Libra. I dunno, maybe i'm just not communicating my thoughts very well. I'm about to stop commenting on anything on here ever. Seems like an opinion isn't allowed? sorry if it bothered you.
     DavidsonDuke   tue mar 09 2010 at 8:23 pm         · 
Abby,

You write that anyone who is "honest" will agree with you and then come back with "I guess an opinion isn't allowed" when challenged?
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 8:35 pm         · 
Good Lord...I give up. I mean really? Here's an example...I don't like Bluegrass music. It's not my gig. Don't listen to it on purpose, usually change the channel when it's on. But, if i'm honest, i admit it's good music, it has it's place in the industry, i'm just not a fan.

THAT is what i mean when i use the phrase, "if you're honest" ... in other words, if you give it the chance, or look outside the box.

But i'm pretty much over having my wording picked apart. If you don't get the meaning, I have nothing left to write about it. Just lay off me. I'm not saying that anyone who doesn't believe in astrology isn't honest. And I challenge anyone to truly think that I did. enough already. who needs this? Thanks for the shout out Rick...it's been AWESOME.
     DavidsonDuke   tue mar 09 2010 at 8:38 pm         · 
Abby,

I apologize for ticking you off. Perhaps I overreacted to the word "honest."
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 8:45 pm         · 
It's okay Davidson, really...It's just...I don't understand why I get shredded on here. for seemingly everything. It's not your fault, but yes, you took the word "honest" to it's truest form and it's a turn of phrase. I have always had a thick skin. to spend the years i've spent in t.v. you have to. but after a while i just get a bit .... defensive? wounded? exhausted from it? I mean, it would appear everyone on here can have an opinion, except me. chalk it up to a bad day i guess....although the only thing that's been bad, is feeling picked on on mojo. I'm thanking my lucky stars I named my twins none matching, conventional names or I'd probably be in bed with the covers over my head at this point.
     Ms. Ass   tue mar 09 2010 at 10:57 pm         · 
aww..Abby...i dont know you at all, but you can definitly have an opinion. I've noticed people seem to overly pick on your comments a lot. Seen that happen a couple of times in different areas actually. No worries. Some of us truley appreciate your opinions. LOL..now, i'll be the scapegoat and maybe everyone will shred me a while. :)
     Abby Miller H.   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:07 pm         · 
thanks Ms. ... i'm glad i'm not the only one noticing...actually a few of my friends say things like, "girl i don't know how you take all that crap." lol. you're sweet. and i hope no one shreds you!!! i just wish there could be a constructive dialogue...seems like the computer gives people license to take things the wrong way (i'm guilty of that,) or be rude b/c it's "just a blog." thanks for the love. i needed that!
     Ms. Ass   tue mar 09 2010 at 11:12 pm         · 
I'm one of those quiet readers. So i have noticed, just hadnt said anything till now. I hate to see anyone start to feel picked on. It's so easy to do on the internet for exactly the reasons you've mentioned.

No worries. If i get shredded, it wont be the first time. Besides if they're picking on me, it gives someone else a rest. And more then that, i find it amusing. When the only conversation you get most days is between you and a class of two year olds, you take what you can get. And if adults choose to act like two year olds when speaking at me, at least i have the job experience to deal with it! ;)
     frederic   wed mar 10 2010 at 12:15 pm         · 
Abby, you aren't being picked on. You're simply over-stating you opinions, being rude, sometimes invoking data that you can't or won't provide, and crying foul, taking it personally, when people call you on it. That you aren't aware you're being rude makes it less rude, I suppose--but only after people get to know you, and can put it down to Well, that's just Abby, she doesn't really mean anything by it.

"Honestly" means "honestly" until one knows it's supposed to mean something else. If it's just a turn of phrase it's a quaint one.

There are patterns in our daily lives, patterns our behavior that mean something, and can explain a lot of mysteries, without looking to the stars.
     Abby Miller H.   wed mar 10 2010 at 12:26 pm         · 
thanks fred. you're entitled to your opinion, though i'm glad most don't share it. you're a peach...and yes, that's sarcasm. have a great day.
     frederic   wed mar 10 2010 at 1:44 pm         · 
Well, again, you seem to think I'm attacking you. Sorry you think there's a mysterious conspiracy of random people to persecute you, I'm only suggesting there may be a simpler explanation.

When I first started reading you I thought you were a troll, saying things to annoy people, as an act, like Sarah Silverman--part cutesy, part ugly, and on purpose, to get attention. I really did. I take it that's not the case. Well, I'm sorry.

Look, some people like to engage in some argument, like to support and defend their opinions. Over and over, you get all ""Lay off me! It's my OPINION, okay?

Well, okay. But that's something that's different about you, not people treating you different.

I'm not attacking you Abby, and I don't dislike you. Honestly.

My wife used to like a corny T.V. show called Friday the 13th, until I pointed out that the people never noticed this pattern in their lives--that every mystery always turned out to involve some antique object in their little curio shop. That ruined it for her.

Now I feel bad. I'm sorry.
     Abby Miller H.   wed mar 10 2010 at 2:06 pm         · 
you thought i was a troll? really? good Lord. Thanks. Okay, i'm done here. I'm sorry my opinions don't jive with others but that's the glorious thing about our country. We don't have to agree. But I don't think i need to be called a troll either. wow. thanks.
     frederic   wed mar 10 2010 at 4:53 pm         · 
Abby, I said at first I thought you were a troll, was wrong, sorry. You seem to hear me calling you a troll. Whatever.

I'm saying you sometimes over-state your opinions, ant take offense when people call you on it. You may think that's a viscous and hateful for me to say, but, I happen to disagree. I think it's a pretty mild and friendly criticism.

You do, in fact. It's a fact, not an opinion, that I'm still waiting for the data on "youth offenses" you said people must be living in a dreamworld not to know about. I'm still interested to see it, whenever the "information request" comes through.

See what I mean? Come on.

It's not hateful of anyone to ask you to back up what you say. They're just treating you like anyone else. If you expect more than that, I wish you the best of luck.

Sorry, but I'm not responding to your hotbox because your opinion that I'm picking on you because I'm having a bad day doesn't interest me. I'm having a great day, and hope you do too.
     Abby Miller H.   wed mar 10 2010 at 5:00 pm         · 
Fred, that you would rather call someone out in public, rather than address it privately as i requested in a private hot box message, says all I need to know.

I would request that you leave me alone. Your constant verbal barrage is, in my opinion, what is wrong with social sites like this one. I'm asking publicly, that you leave me alone. I've had several messages in my hot box about your posts and need to come down on me. I've asked you to address me privately, you refuse.

You have your issues and i leave you to them. But please leave me alone.
     frederic   wed mar 10 2010 at 6:46 pm         · 
I'm sorry, again, but a public forum is a public forum, and I prefer to address public comments publicly. I'm addressing your posts, and that's that. I don't care what private messages you get, because I'm not interested in you personally. No offense, but I'm not. I usually send private messages to people I know, and usually by e-mail.

I have no problem with you Abby. I do have a pet interest in things people say that don't make any sense, and you say a few every now and then. It's not that big a big deal.

I think you're just pretending I'm attacking you personally, and I think that's rude of you.
     Karma13   wed mar 10 2010 at 7:52 pm         · 
I agree with M.A, I too feel that Abby has been targeted unfairly, and bullied from, it seems day 1. This blog is a perfect example.
When you get on here and see the exchanges, it is clear Abby was trying to end the Banter..but Fredrick kept on.
I think everyone loves a healthy debate, but to go to this degree is just plain unnecessary. I am sure from reading her comments she doesn't need a cheerleader. I just thought I would point that out. We're adults here, keep it healthy.

I feel really sad about the homeless shelter..We can help banks, Car corp., and $500.00 a room per night for our senators while abroad..not to mention all of the relief effort to other countries..now People are being pushed to have nothing, which in return will almost certainly cause a rise in crime.

Bridge Tolls? I can see the bright side of that..having said that, it would slow everything down.
     frederic   wed mar 10 2010 at 8:41 pm         · 
I keep on because I don't appreciate my comments being characterized as personal attacks when they aren't, that's all. When she doesn't do that, I'm good.
     Abby Miller H.   wed mar 10 2010 at 8:50 pm         · 
LEAVE ME ALONE. LEAVE ME ALONE. LEAVE ME ALONE. that's as clear as i can be and i will NOT write it again. MOVE ON. period. other people have spoken up and said the same thing i've said, so just MOVE ON.
     frederic   thu mar 11 2010 at 3:34 pm         · 
That's probably true SCN. I do that. And I do it even more when people keep telling me what I really mean. Plus, I'm pretentious.

But when somebody calls me on it I hope I don't accuse everyone of just picking on me--directly implying that they aren't really saying what they really mean. To me that's just a pseudo-polite way of calling people liars whenever you don't like what they say. That's not nice, and it's not fair, and I notice when people don't do it they don't get "picked on" nearly as much as when they do. And that, just to over-state it, yet again, is what I'm saying.

No, it doesn't mean I dislike anyone, that I don't like and appreciate other things about their comments, that I don't agree with them about other things, that I'm having a bad day--and I sure hope it doesn't mean that I'm the problem with internet forums.

It means what it means. And I don't feel bad about saying it, at all.
     Abby Miller H.   thu mar 11 2010 at 3:41 pm         · 
thanks Scifi!!! NIce try. Some just don't "get it." I appreciate the love and support. :0) i'm so over it. enough, enough, enough. there's more to life than picking on others to bolster your own feeling of self worth. I'm DONE. have a good one!!
     Abby Miller H.   thu mar 11 2010 at 3:42 pm         · 
p.s. what is that profile pic scifi? lol....fortune cookies? pineapple pieces? bwhahahahaha...
     frederic   thu mar 11 2010 at 7:15 pm         · 
Well, I might feel bad if this was the first time I saw somebody playing the "picking on me" routine around here, but I've been on Mojo since June of 06, when some guy named Radguy was pretty sure he was being picked on in the forums. Some people agreed with him, too.

It certainly is true that some people just don't get it.

I don't know much about astrology, but I do know that if one changes an aspect of their behavior, they can see if they get different results--if that's really what they want. One's opinion may be wrong, of course, I may be wrong, sure, but at least you can test it, if you want.

Astrology might explain a lot, for all I know, or care. When narcissistic fantasy stops making sense of people's behaviors for me, I guess I'll have to check it out.
     Abby Miller H.   thu mar 11 2010 at 7:25 pm         · 
Vodka fudge? lol...my next guess was going to be cheese. okay and now it's different...you have shiny heads...reject pile from the academy awards?? I could write a blog just on profile pics...hmm...

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